I'm just in it for the ISK

Molden Heath will burn and all will be crushed beneath the weight of Vader's-Fist.

Why?

So you can be richer than the other 10 people who'll end up being what's left here?

I'm just in it for the fights, at some stage I have shot for/at every Corp active in the game, a lot of that time spent with some of my own rag-tag clan of bandits who are an awesome mix of players, and a lot of them are damn good at what they do.. because I took the chance, and brought them to fights, from Vet to NPC corps, if it's red we try to kill it

Added to that, I have dragged DMG mercs to fight for a lot of fresh blood in PC, offering mercs, unwanted advice, insults and if the team was going nowhere I would just take of over and try to lead it myself and as many times as I've died for it.. I have brought as many teams with sh!t odds to win battles... For the sake of getting more fights.

I've seen ringers, way too many fight for ISK and a stomp.. faced with a fight the RQ QQ LAG battle begins.

A merc that wants to fight someone is worth 10x more to a team than one that wants to get paid.

Currently in MH a Top active fighting Corp can make use of about 10 Districts, with this you can afford regular battles, gain profit and have a stock of clones. At this you have a good total and add to fights, smaller Corps aiming for 5 would be ideal, there are the players to do this active on Dust yet we sit in a stale mate because of Alliances, truces, fggts and scrubs that cannot see past their own activity and in most sad cases KDR... but why bother to rant sense at any of you..

CCP left the building.. this community is what we have to game with and it's not looking good.

SOONtm... as we wait for CCP to spoon feed something to fight over
Which will not happen.. why add content to be farmed rather than contested??

How can you agree with that... CCP have had to build around a game of players encouraged to squeze every last dime out of it rather than just play for the content on offer, offered a sandbox to do what you will and rather than make something you pocket the sand instead... How can CCP be expected to add content to that environment ??

ISK wealth is great.. on a game you can barely find a battle in becasue of that mentality.
Many crazy bastards have played the game for just as long, with only the intention of just seeing content progress

The ISK barrier is half of the reason gameplay is screwed, and allows scrubs like me to get a good score...

As much as we complain of CCP, the community they have to work with sucks.

I still feel there is a lot left that could be done yet however. Rattati and his crew are stat tweaking madmen so knowing that, it is possible we can bring in more specialities or sidegrades that we actually want for our role. (I.e + this for - that) This would give us new things we actually want to put SP into. I have had many ideas along these lines but its all a big wait and see with CCP.

How about the DK store, is anything coming of that?

^ Do you hear this, CCP Rattati?

If the elite Kumbaya Corps aren't interested in warring with one another, and they feel there's nothing left in Dust for them to do but blue up, be bored, be "jaded" and print Isk, what harm would there be in introducing Proper Raid Mechanics? What better way to bust up the talent pools, break the stalemate and keep the wheels of war moving?

Nonsense. I see competitive fights all the time. If you can't find a good fight, the odds are you aren't looking for one. If you don't want to be a peaceful farmer, then do something about it. Convince your leadership to grow a pair and fight rather than farm. If they're unwilling, find a corp which will.

You realize you two are in the same corp, right?
Which story does NF want to go with today?

One guy from NF says, "Competition is dead. There are no fights. There is no hope." Another says, "We're fighting five fights a day! And sometimes competitive fights! Against OH!"

Your stories don't add up. Who cares? The fact remains that competitive fights happen all the time. If Thor isn't seeing them, then he must not be looking for them. Right? I'm just letting Thor know that they're still out there. Just in case.

Edit: And if we ever get Raids, he won't have to look far for a good fight.

Oh so the 50 or so dudes within those two corps that would actually be fielded in the battles against each other means lots of competition?

The Dust playerbase is full of people who would rather AFK in FW for measly LP than actually shoot at people.

Out of the 10 PC battles a day at least 5 are no shows.

I agree. And I think it can be fixed.

Lmfao, you realize we have like 5-10 battles A DAY, right? Like, we're -always- fighting, and not just the newer corps that randomly attack us out of no where, we fight Outer Heaven as well. Which, if we're not considering Outer Heaven as proper competition then I dunno what is >_>;

I'm an ocean away from my PS3 for the next few weeks, but if I were able to log in I can guarantee that my experience would go something like this:

1. Read corp mail about multiple PCs.
2. Join PC chat
3. Waste 45 minutes to an hour on a no show, then go directly into another match that turns out to be another no show.
4. Run some FW where the competition is so fierce that I can leave my dude standing by an objective while I go ****, to find him still alive.
5. Get bored with FW and try some pubs.
6. Play two or three matches that are decided within a few minutes and spend 95% of the matches avoiding sniper fire while trying to be the first to kill the random hero that decides to go it alone and run from the redline.
7. Then for whatever reason Scotty puts me on the other side where it appears my team is trying out for the Olympic sniper team and I can either be the hero or leave battle.

I must have misinterpreted your responses to my earlier posts

I bet you have very few friends IRL.

I still don't see the point of PC other than a d*ck measuring contest. Give me the EVE PI connection in a seriously important way and I'll play.

The day EVE important resources are shifted to the planets is the day PC would matter.

I said the post was well written, not that I agree.

In fact, I don't feel like Aeon described. I've been playing since day one closed beta. Though I didn't play much of closed, and only started PC relatively recently. I play for the fights, for the challenge of skill and strategy.

I've never tried to gain large amounts of isk. I recently reached my highest ever wealth at 60mil isk.

I do like the isk element, as it lets you vary your commitment based on the competition. It's nice to fight proto with proto, but it's also fun in situations that seem hopeless, to have the option to fight proto with bpo and win the isk war.

Am I reading this wrong, or did you flipflop your position entirely in under 24 hours? If you can't keep the facts straight in your own head, how do you intend to function as information filter/exchange between us and the Devs?

Well, I don't play Eve, but as I understand it, can you not use cheap ships to limit loss? Is it not possible to fight expensive ships with cheap? You may lose more ships but your total isk loss will be less.

I know things are different in Dust, but the principle seems similar.

Winning with appropriate force is always best. But if you can't win, surely inflicting maximum damage for minimum loss is the best option?

Bpos aren't as powerful as proto. Player skill is always a factor and should be rewarded.

I'm not trying to troll you, Aeon. I believe that your first position fits reality:
Hold land. Stockpile Isk. The less you fight, the more you make.

As for BPOs, I see no argument being made here about BPOs. Seems off topic.

So should we focus here on fixing the end-game? Which is the topic of this thread.
Or should go looking for new ways to bone poor players? Because Eve reasons.

What happens to excess clones once a district reaches capacity? When Yesterday's Aeon talked about printing ISK, what specific process(es) do you think he was referring to?